# 🕰️ 'j M Y' For People, ISO8601 For Machines #date People should never need to be concerned with date formats; they shouldn't even be aware that a date has been 'formatted'. They should be able to scan some content which contains a date, and not have to stop to parse it, it should be immediately obvious. There is no need to use easy-to-mistake formats like 2025-09-01 and 01-09-2025, developers know this is the 1st of September, but developers aren't the ones using your app. It's slow to read, and a non-zero number of those people will see that date as the 9th of Jan. If you are presenting a date for human eyeballs use `{php}date('j M Y')` aka ```php //[eval] echo '\'' . date('j M Y') . '\''; ``` . It's short, quick for the brain to parse, intuitive and unambiguous. Anytime dates are stored use machine-readable formats like ISO8601 (```php //[eval] echo date('c'); ```) or a unix timestamp (```php //[eval] echo date('U'); ```)